Follow 16064. The Crimson King decides he's bored and decides to start trolling other verses. PR Beyonder was the most powerful entity sans TOAA in the marvel multiverse for a time, he was pretty much able to do whatever the hell he wanted, telling The Living Tribunal to fuck off included. Follow 23177. Hulk tanking a hit from Beyonder is an outlier too by the way. PR Beyonder 1B likely 1A. PR beyonder. The Two fight in the beyond realm. Has this been done before? the Search function is screwing me over if so. ForumsMe and a friend have been arguing over this for a long time,so we decided to make our own matches to see which of our favorites wins. Taikyoku is the beginning of all. It would also destroy the. deactivated-5d755a684b00b. Just wanna point out, nexus beyonder is a thing, the goblin queen merged with beyonder corpse and gained part of his essence. Current Beyonder should be very close to PR I'd say, they've established that the current version hasn't been retconned to a Ivory King and his final feat was leaving the Marvel multiverse. Reviews: 1. PR Beyonder is OP, he was originally written to be THE top entity in Marvel, there's no real beating him. Who do you think is the strongest in Marvel? Who do you think is the strongest in DC? If they fight who will win???Sure, baby 400 tonner mark LOL, also he made a weird noise just as PR Beyonder made a noise when hulk slammed him. m outperformed beyonder,, And in Alan Moore’s watchmen, dr. lazerbeak. Round 5, 6, 7 and 8: same as rounds 1, 2, 3 and 4 except that Batman is bloodlusted, he is working with Doom and Reed Richards and has 100x preparation time. 5 years ago. 1. This is the battle of the greatest Feat :)483K subscribers in the whowouldwin community. Gen. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. How does Protege beat PR Beyonder? Protege vs Beyonder. TOAA is above all. Following Secret. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the never-ending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth's greatest heroes. ) as regarding LT, you really must have. A . I hear people say HoTU Thanos = TOAA but I have my doubts, I personally think it's just a fraction of TOAA's power. I don't think Oblivion can be destroyed. " @Pr_Beyonder: LT could very well beat Lucifer. Beyonder solos. Beyonder by just being angry caused multiversal destruction. very mutch doubt that. LT gets rekt by beings above multiversal power, Dax Mandrakk was going to eat all of creation, including everything outside the multiverse that made the multiverse look miniscule. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. So currently it doesn’t matter if you take PR-Beyonder or the current one, both are from the beyond - and as such subjects to the Phoenix‘ judgement and rely on her to exist. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesIt could be argued that the HOTU is as powerful as pre-retcon Beyonder, but even if you were to successfully argue that, it's two beings of PR-Beyonder level power against one HOTU. Unkindness Raven vs PR Beyonder TheDevil98. During PR Beyonder's time, the idea of TOAA had never been established. 0. While Manhattan is a multiversal entity tribunal is. " I agree for the most part,the way I see this. 6th. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking…Marvel has only hype, pr beyonder is the only char to be so hyped he is seen as the strongest. I'm siding withBeyonder's been retconned at least twice afaik, his half-a-Cube-Being version was a pretty serious reality warper too. #1 Edited By bluepride1234. So as we know, Phoenix Force is an extremely powerful entity in Marvel. Forums. Kami Tenchi by many (not me though) is considered a Multiversal God. Thats why Molecule Man (who is weaker than PR Beyonder, but shares his powers) was able to fix it with little to no effort. In Immortal Hulk#50 TOAA said he becomes TOBA when he has to do. ReplyOkay so i want to go to war with the JLA and I'd like to build a team from Viners to do so. 0. A universe that is more powerful than the multiverse. 0. 5. Round 1: CAS vs. 0. edit2: One big gotcha I should mention. @Pr_Beyonder said: " @FLCL1 said: " @demifiend said: " current mohamed ali "he beats his ass "Muhammad Ali would kick kick ass's ass. Random encounter. Without the Pre-Retcon clause, Beyonder is ridiculously hosed, being outclassed by a Cosmic Cube. 13 years ago. That was Pre-Retcon Beyonder. The Beyonder is strong, but not exactly the strongest. So by definition, above any DC character except the equivalent of TOAA (The Presence. Standard equipment. Eru Iluvatar (in a contest of who made a cooler world) Lucifer, Thanos, Dr. I know that Krona vs LT already exists but i havn't seen one where krona has all the items and i think it would be interresting to see them battleTakPR Beyonder is stronger than all Marvel universe and its beings combined by far. User Lists: 3 #20 g2_ Beyonder curb stomps. Many People are Underestimating Pre Retcon Beyonder in The Comments but they are forgetting some thing. . living tribunal could not do a damn thing 12 years ago. Join this channel to get access to perks:Credits to THZCheck out YFV (@YFVillainYT). Morals off, No prep, random encounter, No BFR, The battle takes place in Tokyo, Japan. Alien X (Ben 10) vs pre retcon Beyonder. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. Yes: PR beyonder, PR molecule man, toaa, toba, toba. It's pretty much PR Beyonder , LT & HOTU Thanos vs Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, full power Spectre, WF Mxy & COIE Anti Monitor , with a small assist from the rest of their teams . PR Beyonder was the most powerful entity sans TOAA in the marvel multiverse for a time, he was pretty much able to do whatever the hell he wanted, telling The Living Tribunal to fuck off included. EDIT: About Beyonder being gullible and "getting his power's stolen". PR Beyonder shrugged of a shot that "would have slagged a few million entire dimensions" fired by the only other dude would could have leveled such a thing (PR Molecule Man). I’m goin wit Batman. Dr Manhattan isn't a match for Galactus, and Galactus is a mere insect to the Beyonder. However, that scan of her being able to have an effect on PR Beyonder was pretty badass. COIE fully powered anti monitor was the entire DC multiverse, his reality warping and. If it's spiderman with the power of PR Beyonder then he should win. What we know about Mark Miller's Marvel 1985 is that he. doomsday49. If TOAA comes to DC and try to challenge The Presence , TOAA will lose since he won't be omnipotent anymore. Start off twenty feet away. Thanos (HOTU) Very debatable. The character plays a more antagonistic role in the 1985 sequel, Secret Wars II, in which he takes human form to learn about desire but threatens to destroy the multiverse out of increasing frustration. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. With Marvel having beings like the LT, Protege,PR Beyonder,PR Molecule Man,Scanthan The Approver,Multi-Eternity,Oblivion,Life Bringer Galactus and many others. (The bKorvac wields Power Cosmic. Bonus Round: Pre-Retcon Molecule Man should also stomp IG Thanos. Yes he is, I don't expect you to read comics to know that. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. Lucifer & Michael vs PR Beyonder will be a better match-up. I got this idea from the "PR-Beyonder vs Galactus" thread. Follow 10594. Round 2: Molecule Man after the retcon Beyonder era. Minor nitpick. The Empty Hand blinks PR-Beyonder off the comic book page if he so desires and that is before he made the Oblivion Machine. The beyonder should be able to Reply CyberpunkV2077 • Additional comment actions. He was said to be millions of times more powerful than the entire marvel universe(?). 4 years ago. I'm using universe very loosely here; we're probably on the scale of. Funny, didn. 11 years ago. New Comics. Holo-Man • 3 yr. Bump. Wiki Points. So even at a lower power level, Lucifer may still beat him. FollowHere's the deal. ". He was even above and beyond the writing staff . User. PR Beyonder wins. PR Beyonder was millions of times powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse. PR Beyonder existed before all things in existence he was. i wanna hear mr. There's a LOT of weird hax in Bleach, not even including Aizen. 14 years ago. Roshi in a heartbeat. @Pr_Beyonder: We Never saw it's limits, But Aang used it to completely seal away phoenix lord Ozai's Fire bending and made it so he "could never hurt anyone ever again. 11,059. My gut is Monarch?Stomp. Wiki Points. LT, Multi-Eternity, Death, Galactus etc. If that's true, the Presence would be way weaker then PR Beyonder. Yeah, but PR Beyonder had LT shaking in his wee booties. PR Beyonder is more powerful than Marvels TOAA(who was defeated by Thanos with an Astral Regulator). The difference between that portrayal and what Pre-Crisis Superman was capable of is most likely over a dozen orders of magnitude greater than the one between an amoeba and Pre-Crisis Superman. Reviews: 0. So Beyonder casually stomping and being above people who casually stomp multiversal beings, is a massive step up. He. Wiki Points. u/nullfather can attest to that. Living Tribunal was also onlu second to TOAA much like Michael and Lucifer are second only to Presence. The thought of Beyonder defeating SCP 3812 because he was able to destroy a billion universes is laughable. PR Beyonder is way beyond than Thanos with IG. Wiki Points. Although the Beyonder was retconned to a Cosmic Cube, he was retconned again into an Inhuman-Mutant, thus he lacks the feats. After his creator, Jim Shooter left Marvel, writer-editor Tom DeFalco, displeased with. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. Another statement made about. 313. #1 KalKent1297. 05-03. 4 years ago. Silver Age Superman doesn't have universe+ feats which the Cosmic Cube Beyonder had and PR Beyonder was beyond multiverse+ level. Neither is the fact that PR Beyonder was millions of times more powerful than everything in the entirety of the multiverse. The character plays a more antagonistic role in the 1985 sequel, Secret Wars II, in which he takes human form to learn about desire but threatens to destroy the multiverse out of increasing frustration. Alot of people seem to have hard time giving HOM Wanda her due. They have been - however, the influence of the Phoenix now extends to the realm of the Beyonders, which is the same realm where the Beyonder from the 80s is from. The deciding factor imo is that Lucifer is a bloody genius. 3 years ago. Exists alongside all of Heaven in Creation inside of the story. Not only that, but the mirrors contained nothing more than aborted universes. Molecule Man. @asuva: @takenstew22: @shadow411: Ren and Reinhard paints the Law of the entire reality itself. I didn't say he was TOAA himself *face palm* BEYONDER was TOAA before TOAA existed BEYONDER was him (TOAA) in his own. To put it simply, PR Beyonder barely thinks of destroying John Constantine, in. Gen. His weakness is a lack of understanding of. Manhattan has never shown any feats to even suggest him being at Beyonder's level. Ruphas not in baseline L1A, Ruphas can easily defeated Alovenus which is rated L1A character. -You may take DNA samples from 5 different Alien Races from any fictional media. pr beyonder was to kill death and all the abstracts (eternity,watcher,LT,galactus,mephisto,celestials) begged him but he killed death anyway. buster wise, and low level reality warper, that stuffPR Beyonder feats, Chuck Norris facts, Woody Wood Pecker whatevers. Following Secret Wars and Secret Wars II, the Beyonder experienced many notable retcons. 1. 0. PR Beyonder was designated just under TOAA due to his Omnipotence in his own universe or something to that effect. He could quite literally blink Dr Manhattan out of existence. 0. Jul 30, 2018. Iirc HotU isn’t allowed in battles given the type of power it is. "@Decoy Elite: sorry for bumping this thread but I needed to reply to. Manhattan has never shown any feats to even suggest him being at Beyonder's level. Yet, is not responsible for creation. While still a child, the older Beyonders began their grand experiment where they. Okay I've got a theory, you're either a bot or a really young kid who's interested in Battleboarding and is just throwing random characters out to see what's happening. Forum Posts. at the time "Don't make me post a pic of you in that one armor. Reviews: 0. No. 13 years agoAnything they can do the PR beyonder can do if not even do better. Battle has been done so many damn times. Bleach should lose in nearly everything. Apr 2014. The only real threat to him was the PR Molecule man, who challenged him to a universe breaking smack down which was pretty much a draw. If allowed, Thanos with HOTU or astral regulator is top tier. If Doom goes at full confidence in. 4 years ago. Reviews. HOTU Thanos. Followers. The PR Beyonder isn't from the universe and isn't bound by its limitations. Mate living tribunal has killed the beyonder. Further to that; Odin, Galactus and, especially Beyonder, are all. Forum Posts. Even though Pr Beyonder was published/written by Marvel he was not meant to be a Marvel entity, but an entity outside of the Marvel Actuality - in essence his own Actuality. I don't know a. Wiki Points. also, according to the bible, he can be killed, as the incarnation of Jesus, with a few spear pokes and soem crucifiction. I would say as well TOAA seems "more" omnipotent then Presence. PR-Beyonder easily, He was (literally) the multiverse outside of marvel, the beyond realm, everything was him and he was everything basically. This is hard to tell. While secret wars came out in 1984 it extended to 1985 which i believe was when Molecule man made his secret wars appearance. (Cuz there are none. And how do we know PR Beyonder could blink LT out of existence, he could blink lady death out of. . Just because that occurred, does not mean Pre-Retcon Beyonder's "im ominoptent" statement holds any weight. " @Pr_Beyonder: LT could very well beat Lucifer. level 2 · 1y. Beyonder would just make remake everything that was destroyed. He's nowhere near the same ballpark as PR Beyonder. Aside from them, PR-Beyonder is the strongest being in marvel. 13 years ago. Example: I have taken the hill and have the death star watIt can and has been argued that PR Beyonder exceeds TOAA in power, whereas the HotU apparently. She easily could hold an infinite-D multiverse in her hand, while Beyonder's best feat was to shake an infinite-D. The PR Beyonder saw the multiverse as a. not_anakin. Michael doesn't really have a lot in the way of feats, other than statements by other characters and some. Oh so she was the woman people talked about when they say "Beyonder can't be defeated except by that girl who he. No BFRs and the battle takes place in the forge of creation. The Beyonder can take on Galactus and Superman isn't as strong and he would lose. Some dude told me this guy was strong but i think goku can with with kamehameha. Morals off. PR Beyonder learns about his future self in Marvel (being a jobber) and is pissed off. Lucifer is stated to be second ONLY TO THE JEWISH GOD (Yahweh). @Pr_Beyonder: immortal means unable to die of age or sickness Thor isn't coughing on him or waiting around for him to age to death he's smashng his head into chuncks of mushy brain 13 years ago. The beyond realm was also so large in size it made the marvel multiverse look like a droplet of water while the beyond realm was the ocean. FollowAny who PR Beyonder wins against any Jesus since his only "feats" are raising the dead, reviving after 3 days, turning water into wine and some other bits of lesser magic. This topic is locked from further discussion. 0. PR Beyonder was 2nd only to TOAA before being retconned and would erase protege from existence. Copy. #1. Follow 26437. Martian (Martian Manhunter) 3. MM solo's. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. Aside from them, PR-Beyonder is the strongest being in marvel. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is more powerful than the Living Tribunal. Based on physics, molecules, space and time. lannfear. Manhattan's league. The man with the blue privates exists only b/c the man from beyond allows him to. Holo-Man • 3 yr. But Beyonder not only owned the entire MU, he did it casually, and his reality warping makes GEB's powers a non-factor. Lucifer's power is stated to be infinit, and he is virtually omnipotent. Due to the fact that he is an agent of TOAA (basically god), The Living Tribunal is more powerful than any other entity, including PRB. #1 quandaledingle. PR Beyonder still wins unless of course that's MF Mxy which I doubt it is (and even if it was some idiot would argue that actually being able to change the beyonder into a turd doesn't count for. Michael Demiurgos >> Pre-Retcon Beyonder >>>>> Battler. -5. After the retcon (1st one) that all changed, but not before it. From incredibly superficial research, it's the whole "Shadow/Dark Reflection of God" thing that has been knocking around in DC since the old Swamp Thing days. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. K. M. The Two fight in the beyond realm. And of course the LT himself. @Prince CortSether said: Assuming PR Beyonder in this thread stands for Pre-retcon like it usually does. PR Beyonder > Ivory Kings. Don't worry give it couple of hours and you will see people saying that Odin solo the scpverse Anyway I meant that R3 = R4 = R5, TOAA. You can say PR Byonder is more powerful then LT (M), Phoenix Force…hell even Phoenix of the White Crown would probably not be a match…But Those 3 have never met each other, and have bin ranked 2nd only to TTOA. Beyonder was the one above all before TOAAPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. 4 years ago. Even with her 50/50 negated by her spear, Gungnir, Othinus is in no way comparable to the likes of PR Beyonder or even Beyonder post-retcon. One Above All Wasnt around when PR Beyonder was, people liken PRB to what TOAA would of been at the time. Beyonder was the one above all before TOAAPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. Forum Posts. PR Beyonder was TOAA in the beyond realm. So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. Gokuisthebest. Forum Posts. Dr. MM is powerful enough to rebuild the marvel multiverse completely from scratch, and he was nowhere near as strong as PR Beyonder when they fought during SW2. And the LT he beat was undefined. He was much, much stronger than fundamental forces of the universe such as Galactus, Entropy, Eternity, etc. Forum Posts. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine Pages@Pr_Beyonder said: " Remember Beyonder's omniscient so. Destroying the metaverse, which is stated to be. The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. It's pretty much PR Beyonder , LT & HOTU Thanos vs Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, full power Spectre, WF Mxy & COIE Anti Monitor , with a small assist from the rest of their teams . PR Beyonder was above all beings in marvel. 0. pr beyonder was to kill death and all the abstracts (eternity,watcher,LT,galactus,mephisto,celestials) begged him but he killed death anyway. Wiki Points. . And pr beyonder was never the writer, stop the cap. We're talking about a guy who recreated the omniverse just by thinking about it and decimated the entire multiverse just. Follow 8649. Posted by u/galactusisathiccboi - 4 votes and 14 commentsLol at Battler stronger than PR Beyonder. I don't know a. Nobody can beat PR Beyonder. -5. Dr Manhattan is a very proficient matter-energy manipulator. He tanks an attack that would destroy several billion dimensions like nothing from PR Molecule. However, PR Beyonder is an extremely powerful reality warper and is simply way out of Dr. So because of Doom holding back, Michael can win. The One Above All. Pre-retcon versions of Beyonder and MM. PR Beyonder by feats and by on-panel dialogue. Nobody in Marvel or DC aside from the Primal Monitor (DC) or TOAA (Marvel) have the slightest chance against PR Beyonder. I think Beyonder wins based on feats. This topic is locked from further discussion. The Two fight in the beyond realm. Round 1: CAS vs. PR Beyonder > Ivory Kings. And the LT he beat was undefined. They might ruffle his soul-glo hair though, which wouldn't end well for them. Warlockmage. Even if Thanos had 100 years prep and had the IG, PR Beyonder erases him from existence with his hand. Doctor Doom can steal/absorb power from PR Beyonder, Galactus, Asgardians, Nightmare, Life Force (Reality warping from HoM) etc but couldn't defeat Onslught? That is inconsistent. PR Beyonder was TOAA before TOAA was ever a thought. Wiki Points. They are not the same character. Jul 30, 2018. PR Beyonder face tanked an attack that could destroy a billion dimensions. Thanos with HOTU vs PR is still argued but do note all the cosmics were begging PR MM to fight Beyonder. 1958325779 • 2 yr. Round 3: CAS and Myx vs PR Beyonder and Living Tribunal. Mxyzptlk. PR Beyonder. However, that scan of her being able to have an effect on PR Beyonder was pretty badass. There are like at least dozens DC. 0. Followers. Ruphas have Higher dimensional manip. 3rd. Mxy still bitches every Darkseid save for Infinite Frontier since we don’t know yet. No chance of being omnipotent. Since he knows past. PR beyonder can call upon the other beyonders as well to help if he needs it. Thats why Molecule Man (who is weaker than PR Beyonder, but shares his powers) was able to fix it with little to no effort. Oh, and Doom has a gun. 2. #23 Edited By MrDirector786. He's in seriouLiving Tribunal has been repeatedly demolished by reality warpers who have total control over the multiverse. Magic, on the other hand, is stuff you can’t do with science, it’s the realm of basically gods in Fate. That scales on the top dogs of each omniverse. PR Beyonder - rendered 3 dimensional and was upset by it and confused by it once he left his Beyond realm and entered Marvels multiverse. Also you asked who in Marvel is more powerful than PR Beyonder, so there's no. Followers. He is talking about TOAA, not PR Beyonder. Lord Urizen. This group is a joke compared to Celestials. The Crimson King from The Dark Tower fights The Pre-Retcon Beyonder from Marvel. green_skaar. Oblivion is higher on the totem pole of power. Beyonder wins against Manhattan. And the SCP verse is on par with the Dark Tower when it comes to sheer size and scale. Living Tribunal. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. PR beyonder. And Secret Wars Beyonder would annihilate all versions. 5. Reviews: 4. PR Beyonder existed before all things in existence he was. He swears he will destroy the multiverse for. Here, Alden and Neon fall out of Nil after dying and land in the 6th. If The Presence go to Beyond-verse (the pre-retconed one) or to Marvel , he will lose against TOAA or PR Beyonder because he won't be omnipotent there. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. @traskindustries: He reminds me of Beyonder because of his pictures, not because. PR Beyonder's power was likened to an ocean while the Marvel Universe was said to be a drop of water in comparison. 11 years ago. The Overvoid could be the Beyond-Realm before PR Molecule Man created a pinpoint in the Beyond-Realm to the Earth-616 universe.